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Post by Gravedigger on May 26, 2018 16:47:52 GMT -5
First an update, then a request so skip ahead to the bolded part if you don't want to read the update for whatever reason.
Hey everyone, so if you've been reading your matches in full or at least skimming them, you'll notice that we have a ring announcer, Adilene Floyd, who introduces your character(s) as they walk down the ramp. This is not always consistently added to matches depending if the entrances are supposed to be rushed IC or if it's a match with a ton of people.
Every week when we write the matches we have to manually add the intro and I should have done this months ago, but I've gone in to all your roster entries and added this in so we'll have to spend less time each week adding it when we write matches.
Now there is one thing I need many of you to do. Many of you only have a few moves, usually averaging about 5 or less. There used to be others but I specifically requested people add more moves in a PM. I would like for each of you on the roster to check your roster entry and make sure you have at least 15-20 moves listed that your wrestler would do in a match.
If you would like great examples of how people have listed a bunch of moves for their character, check out the following people's roster entries:
Camila Gonzalez, Zombie McMorris, Corey Bull, Bonnie Blue, and Roy Speede. These are just people off the top of my head who have a lot of moves listed and are super organized.
You do NOT have to do this, just know that the less moves you have and harder you make it to create a move set for your character(s) when we write your matches, the less we will try to make up a bunch of moves for your character to do.
Keep in mind though that we realize some of you have joke characters or you have a character that is NOT a joke character but they don't know a lot of moves yet (Reece Shaw is the prime example) so those people wouldn't be expected to have more moves.
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Post by Corey Bull on May 26, 2018 21:41:13 GMT -5
Now there is one thing I need many of you to do. Many of you only have a few moves, usually averaging about 5 or less. There used to be others but I specifically requested people add more moves in a PM. I would like for each of you on the roster to check your roster entry and make sure you have at least 15-20 moves listed that your wrestler would do in a match. If you would like great examples of how people have listed a bunch of moves for their character, check out the following people's roster entries: Camila Gonzalez, Zombie McMorris, Corey Bull, Bonnie Blue, and Roy Speede. These are just people off the top of my head who have a lot of moves listed and are super organized. You do NOT have to do this, just know that the less moves you have and harder you make it to create a move set for your character(s) when we write your matches, the less we will try to make up a bunch of moves for your character to do. Keep in mind though that we realize some of you have joke characters or you have a character that is NOT a joke character but they don't know a lot of moves yet (Reece Shaw is the prime example) so those people wouldn't be expected to have more moves. I find that the easiest way to do this, is to view it the same way you would a video game. What move set or persons move set would you give your character? Is it going to be a stick and paste sort of a set or are you going to do something "original" to your character. That's what helped me.
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Post by Karlie Nash on May 26, 2018 22:07:47 GMT -5
Karlie move set is from wrestler's I like, with the exception of JBL ( One of the most overrated champions in WWE history)
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Post by Roy Speede on May 26, 2018 22:28:42 GMT -5
I love to try to include at least a little something for literally any situation, but the best thing to keep in mind, it doesn't have to be anything and everything your character will ever do. One of my favorite things to see is a writer taking liberty and thinking, "oh, since X is in his moveset, Y seems like something suited to his style of wrestling." The last thing I want is for someone to assume a wrestler is so predictable that what's on their profile is the only selection of moves possible.
Think of it this way- I have four "grapple" style attacks for an opponent facing me: Angels Wings, Float-Over DDT, Swinging Reverse STO, T-Bone Suplex. Based on that, you can reasonably suspect my character would go for a DDT without the floatover aspect if the situation called for it. But that's not the only stuff my character would reasonably use- it's a basis. I just like to think of it in terms of, he's right around 200 pounds. With an opponent of similar size, he could potentially hit more lifting moves, but they're not the basis of his moveset, and it serves as a reminder to writers that he's not going to be powerbombing John Frost or Corey Bull, who each have 150lb+ size advantage over him, and would be very hesitant to attempt such a move even against an opponent like Wade Moor, who's listed at 255lb and probably about average or slightly above in this community. In the same way, I don't think I'd believe any of those guys is capable of a 450 Splash, and a hurricanrana would look absolutely ridiculous.
Hope this helps, guys!
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Post by Lincoln Kuechly on May 27, 2018 8:00:30 GMT -5
Updated with some more moves. Also changed theme song and added to my entrance.
Out of curiosity, what are the rules regarding to picbase changes?
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Post by Corey Bull on May 27, 2018 11:21:09 GMT -5
Think of it this way- I have four "grapple" style attacks for an opponent facing me: Angels Wings, Float-Over DDT, Swinging Reverse STO, T-Bone Suplex. Based on that, you can reasonably suspect my character would go for a DDT without the floatover aspect if the situation called for it. But that's not the only stuff my character would reasonably use- it's a basis. I just like to think of it in terms of, he's right around 200 pounds. With an opponent of similar size, he could potentially hit more lifting moves, but they're not the basis of his moveset, and it serves as a reminder to writers that he's not going to be powerbombing John Frost or Corey Bull, who each have 150lb+ size advantage over him, and would be very hesitant to attempt such a move even against an opponent like Wade Moor, who's listed at 255lb and probably about average or slightly above in this community. In the same way, I don't think I'd believe any of those guys is capable of a 450 Splash, and a hurricanrana would look absolutely ridiculous. See I add some high risk moves that would work (double knees from the top rope, suicide dive, the moonsault slam) because they can work, but I add the others (Springboard Plancha, springboard moonsault) because they normally wouldn't. It's like lesnar when he did the shooting star press. In OVW, he did it all the time no problem, but that one ppv, that one time with Kurt, he looks silly as fuck. And that's why I add them. It's that last ditch effort that either will or will not work and allows the writers to make it work or not work. I think more people should have one or two or those maybe they can/maybe they can't moves. It would help with SL and points in matches where a writer is stuck and needs an out or a path. But thats just my opinion lol
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Post by Beau Del Sol on May 27, 2018 16:51:45 GMT -5
I'm going to update my move set and I like what Bull and Speede both have to say. Step to the line but not over it. I beleive I have one or two off the top rope moves and this idea came from the fact that another similarly big guy like Lesnar can be that athletic ad it has WOW factor. I was so hurt when Lesnar botched that too. You could see him flexing the ropes trying to get enough air time. And I don't think it's a waste now to be extensive in your profile because the fed heads here actually use it, where others don't. I was thinking of some type of springboard but I can't see Frost going through the trouble or being capable. On another not I'm so lost on whether or not I should add Takers top rope walk as a move.
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Post by Gravedigger on May 27, 2018 17:45:34 GMT -5
Updated with some more moves. Also changed theme song and added to my entrance. Out of curiosity, what are the rules regarding to picbase changes? Technically there are no rules regarding picbases at all. People don't even need them as we know not everyone likes them. You can change your picbase as often as you want. I would just be careful to not use the same picbase as someone else, but that's more of an unwritten rule and not an actual rule. The only time duplicate picbases can really be an issue is if we were to do match graphics as I've done a few times on Twitter (twitter.com not our fake twitter on the boards).
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Post by Lincoln Kuechly on May 27, 2018 18:13:08 GMT -5
Updated with some more moves. Also changed theme song and added to my entrance. Out of curiosity, what are the rules regarding to picbase changes? Technically there are no rules regarding picbases at all. People don't even need them as we know not everyone likes them. You can change your picbase as often as you want. I would just be careful to not use the same picbase as someone else, but that's more of an unwritten rule and not an actual rule. The only time duplicate picbases can really be an issue is if we were to do match graphics as I've done a few times on Twitter (twitter.com not our fake twitter on the boards). Alright thank you. I am fairly tempted to change pic base to Finn Balor as I don't believe anyone else has him.
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Post by Gravedigger on May 27, 2018 19:58:00 GMT -5
Ok cool. If you make that decision, PM me so I can update the picbases thread on the singles roster section
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Post by Corey Bull on May 27, 2018 20:50:23 GMT -5
I'm going to update my move set and I like what Bull and Speede both have to say. Step to the line but not over it. I beleive I have one or two off the top rope moves and this idea came from the fact that another similarly big guy like Lesnar can be that athletic ad it has WOW factor. I was so hurt when Lesnar botched that too. You could see him flexing the ropes trying to get enough air time. And I don't think it's a waste now to be extensive in your profile because the fed heads here actually use it, where others don't. I was thinking of some type of springboard but I can't see Frost going through the trouble or being capable. On another not I'm so lost on whether or not I should add Takers top rope walk as a move. Old School could be a cool move. There was another guy that did it first, oriental guy, use to walk all around the ropes but for the dam life of me I can't remember his name.
Big men do fly though. If you have never seen Vader do a moonsault #YouWill
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Post by Shadowlove on May 27, 2018 21:00:18 GMT -5
I'm going to update my move set and I like what Bull and Speede both have to say. Step to the line but not over it. I beleive I have one or two off the top rope moves and this idea came from the fact that another similarly big guy like Lesnar can be that athletic ad it has WOW factor. I was so hurt when Lesnar botched that too. You could see him flexing the ropes trying to get enough air time. And I don't think it's a waste now to be extensive in your profile because the fed heads here actually use it, where others don't. I was thinking of some type of springboard but I can't see Frost going through the trouble or being capable. On another not I'm so lost on whether or not I should add Takers top rope walk as a move. I think you should only add Takers top rope walk only if you can make it something completely unique for your character as a secondary finisher. Kinda like. . . Once he's layed out his opponent in the center of the ring, have him climb the turnbuckles, signal like he's about to do a body splash like Snuka or an elbow like Savage, for example then tight rope walk the ropes into whatever unique finisher you can find suitable for Frost. Just don't debut it on Shadow at Evolution. lol
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Post by Corey Bull on May 27, 2018 21:02:41 GMT -5
The guy who trained Taker, who's wrestling name was The Spoiler, use to grab them by the hair and walk the top rope. I think if your gonna do a move with the top rope like Taker, following Shadows idea, knock them down center ring, walk the rope and half way through it, leap off with a big leg drop or a cannonball like move similar to Kevin Owens.
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Post by Beau Del Sol on May 27, 2018 21:25:25 GMT -5
I'm going to update my move set and I like what Bull and Speede both have to say. Step to the line but not over it. I beleive I have one or two off the top rope moves and this idea came from the fact that another similarly big guy like Lesnar can be that athletic ad it has WOW factor. I was so hurt when Lesnar botched that too. You could see him flexing the ropes trying to get enough air time. And I don't think it's a waste now to be extensive in your profile because the fed heads here actually use it, where others don't. I was thinking of some type of springboard but I can't see Frost going through the trouble or being capable. On another not I'm so lost on whether or not I should add Takers top rope walk as a move. I think you should only add Takers top rope walk only if you can make it something completely unique for your character as a secondary finisher. Kinda like. . . Once he's layed out his opponent in the center of the ring, have him climb the turnbuckles, signal like he's about to do a body splash like Snuka or an elbow like Savage, for example then tight rope walk the ropes into whatever unique finisher you can find suitable for Frost. Just don't debut it on Shadow at Evolution. lol Bro that's a solid fucking idea I might do that and Bull I'd been thinking of a leg drop off the top rope.
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Post by Camila Gonzalez on May 28, 2018 1:25:31 GMT -5
Another good advice is watching Top Moves of Wrestlers Youtube Videos. That helped with my moveset.
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Post by Corey Bull on May 28, 2018 11:33:38 GMT -5
Another good advice is watching Top Moves of Wrestlers Youtube Videos. That helped with my moveset. This is me every time I enter a new fed with Bull, just to see if I should tweak a move. The one Finisher that has truly never changed has been the Downward Spiral. But the others I sort of rotate when entering a new fed just to have something different along with the usual.
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Post by Ultimate Destroyer on May 29, 2018 3:15:06 GMT -5
Lol destroyer s too huge for most real moves but for me I can just link the old iwa move list so's ya can pick at random iffn ya wants
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Post by Shadowlove on May 29, 2018 21:28:08 GMT -5
For Shadow I picked one basic finisher but added a sense of style and pizzazz . .
THE DARK GIFT: A "Dedicated" Implant DDT. Set-up by an IRIMI-KOKYUNAGE (a Steven Seagal Style Clothesline). The Crowd chants DDT! DDT! DDT! Miss Miyamoto slices her own throat, from her left carotid artery to her right carotid artery, with her index finger and makes an imaginary blood explosion style gesture with her other hand. Shadowlove then "dedicates" the Implant DDT (or a Implant DDT on a steel chair or floor, ect.) to Miss Miyamoto. . . THE END!
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