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Post by Karlie Nash on Aug 28, 2018 1:19:01 GMT -5
These last few weeks I've had nothing creative wise.
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Post by Wade Moor on Aug 28, 2018 10:54:40 GMT -5
I’ll be blunt - you HAVE to break out of your comfort zone. I remember a while back we gave you lots of feedback and your promos afterwards were on an upward trend, but it wasn’t long until Karlie was back in her routine. There has to be some form of creative evolution with the character otherwise you run the risk of running stale and hitting the wall (glass ceiling, however you want to put it)
Karlie needs more depth as a character, something for you and the readers to sink their teeth into. Use your time off to go to the drawing board, come up with sustainable ideas for Karlie, and then put your nose to the grindstone.
If you have any specific questions, my PM box is open and I’d be glad to help!
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Post by Dionysus on Aug 28, 2018 17:05:11 GMT -5
So what direction do you want to take Karlie in?
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Post by Karlie Nash on Aug 28, 2018 18:06:12 GMT -5
no idea
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Post by T.F.K. on Aug 28, 2018 19:22:23 GMT -5
Let's make that sex tape career, produced by Jefferson King
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Post by Beau Del Sol on Aug 28, 2018 19:26:02 GMT -5
Let's make that sex tape career, produced by Jefferson King This should've happened a long time ago with the sex tape affair Frost put out. Karlie we can shoot you detailed ideas if you at least have a general direction?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 19:35:31 GMT -5
The beauty of character development is that it's YOUR character, and you can be very flexible with it. I really liked the idea of Karlie chasing after Brooke Bell, because it was good for both of their characters, and it stayed wrestling related. You could have Karlie start liking one of the male wrestlers, and have her start questioning her sexuality. She could have issues with a family member, or with someone from her hockey career. Your character is pretty versatile, and the more you can take advantage of that, the better off you'll be. Best of luck!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 19:37:20 GMT -5
Another good idea is having one of her one night stands turn out to be a deranged stalker, and to have her put Karlie in danger, whether it be physically, mentally, financially, anything!
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Post by T.F.K. on Aug 28, 2018 19:41:40 GMT -5
Oooo single white cougar storyline
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Post by T.F.K. on Aug 28, 2018 19:42:10 GMT -5
Linked to a potential feud with someone in AW
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Post by Sidney J. Warwick on Aug 28, 2018 19:57:14 GMT -5
Is it possible that you're having difficulty finding direction for the character because you're not able to put enough of yourself into it?
I find that some of the best creative writing tends to be drawn on experiences or themes from the author's own life.
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Post by Lockhart on Aug 28, 2018 20:08:15 GMT -5
Is it possible that you're having difficulty finding direction for the character because you're not able to put enough of yourself into it? I find that some of the best creative writing tends to be drawn on experiences or themes from the author's own life. This is a good point, but also be careful with it. It can be excellent source for inspiration (I've done it multiple times with a few of my characters) BUT if it is done too much, and then other people start to shoot on it in character, it can make the attack feel somewhat personal, even if it was not even close to being intended. But, if you or anyone else who wants to use this technique (which I actually do advise to a degree) and isn't worried about that, then by all means do, it is a great way to develop future stories and flesh out your RPs in more detail.
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Post by Sidney J. Warwick on Aug 28, 2018 20:20:57 GMT -5
Is it possible that you're having difficulty finding direction for the character because you're not able to put enough of yourself into it? I find that some of the best creative writing tends to be drawn on experiences or themes from the author's own life. This is a good point, but also be careful with it. It can be excellent source for inspiration (I've done it multiple times with a few of my characters) BUT if it is done too much, and then other people start to shoot on it in character, it can make the attack feel somewhat personal, even if it was not even close to being intended. But, if you or anyone else who wants to use this technique (which I actually do advise to a degree) and isn't worried about that, then by all means do, it is a great way to develop future stories and flesh out your RPs in more detail. Fair point.
I would say that one way to help mitigate against this somewhat is by not just putting yourself into the character wholesale but taking some aspect of yourself and exaggerating it so that it has a basis in you but is not really you.
For example, as I think I mentioned in the WCF in the past, SJW's left-wing politics actually are, to a degree, MY politics, but I've taken them to their most absurd degree and given them to an egomaniac who really only thinks about himself and not others. (The ego thing might be one of my character flaws, too.)
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Post by T.F.K. on Aug 28, 2018 20:48:02 GMT -5
As good Ol JR Always said, the best characters are themselves turned all the way up.
TFK'S movie love and pop culture is all me of course. Kevin Bishop's darkness and his story with his wife is an artistic approach to my ex wife.
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Post by Beau Del Sol on Aug 28, 2018 21:17:18 GMT -5
Blaze is based off my life til about 23ish when I moved and left the ranch. Sometimes I worry if ppl will relate but if told right anything can be relatable in some way and entertaining. So don't be scared Karlie just leap! We're here for you!
And frost was very loosely based off my life when it went off the tracks for like a year. But Beau could basically be a autobiography for me at that point in my life and he's only 18 so,it's a "fresh" start!
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Post by Karlie Nash on Aug 28, 2018 22:24:06 GMT -5
My real life isn't interesting enough to include in Karlie's stuff.
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Post by Zombie McMorris on Aug 29, 2018 7:51:07 GMT -5
Zmac is based off my true life immortal coked up self. You know, livin the gimmick
Have tried 50+ tinder?
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Post by Donald Deruty on Aug 29, 2018 9:36:33 GMT -5
My real life isn't interesting enough to include in Karlie's stuff. You can over exaggerate your issues into character development. Over the years some of my most fun storylines for Donald has been an exaggeration of my own. For example back in the day I had a friend that was ridiculous goofy, over the top sometimes. So I took that and added him as a character in my storyline. He became a character that I constantly used over and over as Donald's "personal" cameraman. Developing your character is one of the most important things that you can do. Don't always feel that you need to create something wacky or over the top. People understand simple problems or simple parts a person's life, the more you give them the more they feel they know the character your portraying.
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Post by Felix Stapleton on Aug 29, 2018 13:43:04 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with basing some elements of your character on yourself – the real issues start when the character IS you. It’s always people who make their characters thinly veiled inserts that go the most off the rails: when the character IS you, the shoot isn’t about some abstract fictional person, it’s someone insulting and criticizing you. Self-inserts are the most frustrating to work with because they never want to look bad or take an L; if you feud with them, they WILL expect to stand tall at the end of every fight, even if it’s a three-on-one attack (this has happened to me. Not naming names; Wade can have a chuckle about it still).
And why would they? This is a form of idealized escape where they’re supposed to finally be the badass who can say “fuck you” to people fucking with them. They’re also never wrong, so good luck telling them they’re clearly being heels. And when they are heels, they’re never shitty coward cheaters but unstoppable monsters who just terrify everyone but are still feared, respected, and cheered by the crowds.
(Sorry I’ve wanted to get that rant off my chest for a long time.)
A big tip I have is to model a character on yourself or someone you know and then change some important characteristics. I heavily modeled the Howard Black character on myself, but Howie is a college dropout with a wife and son from rural Nebraska, while I’m a nerdy bachelor from California. Felix may be drawn from my experiences working in bars, but he’s a dive bar bouncer while I do the whole “mixology” thing. Those chunks are where you get the sweet spot.
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Post by Spencer Adams on Aug 29, 2018 13:56:44 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with basing some elements of your character on yourself – the real issues start when the character IS you. It’s always people who make their characters thinly veiled inserts that go the most off the rails: when the character IS you, the shoot isn’t about some abstract fictional person, it’s someone insulting and criticizing you. Self-inserts are the most frustrating to work with because they never want to look bad or take an L; if you feud with them, they WILL expect to stand tall at the end of every fight, even if it’s a three-on-one attack (this has happened to me. Not naming names; Wade can have a chuckle about it still). And why would they? This is a form of idealized escape where they’re supposed to finally be the badass who can say “fuck you” to people fucking with them. They’re also never wrong, so good luck telling them they’re clearly being heels. And when they are heels, they’re never shitty coward cheaters but unstoppable monsters who just terrify everyone but are still feared, respected, and cheered by the crowds. (Sorry I’ve wanted to get that rant off my chest for a long time.) A big tip I have is to model a character on yourself or someone you know and then change some important characteristics. I heavily modeled the Howard Black character on myself, but Howie is a college dropout with a wife and son from rural Nebraska, while I’m a nerdy bachelor from California. Felix may be drawn from my experiences working in bars, but he’s a dive bar bouncer while I do the whole “mixology” thing. Those chunks are where you get the sweet spot. I'd like to point out that I've seen 0 flashbang assaults in this fed and it's about damn time someone do something about it!
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