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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2024 15:27:41 GMT -5
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Post by Jonny Cedrone on Feb 25, 2024 16:11:47 GMT -5
He hit him so hard with that Fame-Asser that it knocked him clean out of the ring! I don't understand where all this talk about wrestling being fake comes from lol. What's funny is that the more I watch wrestling today, the more I love and appreciate the wresting of yesteryear. Between all of the flippy-dos and the overuse of certain moves, their turning old finishers into regular moves or setups, the non-selling of moves, high spots that should be finishers and somehow all of these Supermen and Superwomen kick out of them, the choreography that goes into these matches anymore and the little to no story telling in the matches...I dunno. I guess I'm just old. You take any Bret Hart match, any Shawn Michaels match, any Randy Savage match, any Ric Flair match, any RVD match or even Kurt Angle or Shane McMahon match...put them up against any of these matches today that doesn't involve Randy Orton or AJ Styles ((and maybe LA Knight) because I think those guys are the closest we're gonna get to old school that we're gonna get for the foreseeable future) and I'll take the former before I take the latter. I don't understand the psychology to any of the matches nowadays and I doubt if there's any psychology to any of them anymore. They elicit little to no emotion from the crowd. Are they exciting? Yeah, sure. But they're spot fests. Those old matches, you had to look really hard to find where they didn't really hit one another (for the most part). Now, you can watch them all hold each other up so they can hit their moves. It's like watching them figure skate out there. It looks like a lot of the wrestlers today, if not all of them were inspired by the Cruiserweights of WCW from 1995 through 2001. Looking at those matches now, I can see the same flaws I see with the matches today but they still seemed to have sold the moves more. Sorry I'm old.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2024 16:41:42 GMT -5
You know what I don’t get? The love for El Hijo del Vikingo. I’m not one to criticize flippy wrestling. I like flippy wrestling, but his stuff really takes me out of my suspension of disbelief.
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Post by Karlie Nash on Feb 25, 2024 17:10:05 GMT -5
Dumb spot, but considered who was involved in the match. LIke Johnny I'd take any Bret Hart, HBK, Savage, Flair in the prime. Today is based on style but no substance, like the Mexican guys what really differentiates one from the other, back in the day Billy Gunn hits the fame asser dude stays down, today it everybody kicks out of finishers, gone are the days of Jake Roberts hitting the DDT and the match being over, Sweet Chin music every wrestler uses it as a basic move. Nothing against today's wrestling I can still enjoy it, but the old school will always be better.
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Post by Jonny Cedrone on Feb 25, 2024 18:23:40 GMT -5
Dumb spot, but considered who was involved in the match. LIke Johnny I'd take any Bret Hart, HBK, Savage, Flair in the prime. Today is based on style but no substance, like the Mexican guys what really differentiates one from the other, back in the day Billy Gunn hits the fame asser dude stays down, today it everybody kicks out of finishers, gone are the days of Jake Roberts hitting the DDT and the match being over, Sweet Chin music every wrestler uses it as a basic move. Nothing against today's wrestling I can still enjoy it, but the old school will always be better. 100%! The DDT has become a spot. That I hate. As far as I can tell, Jake Roberts was the first to do the move and use it as a finisher. It shoulda stayed as such. I mean I guess I get that wrestling evolves but there are just some things that should remain sacred. At the same time, the Sweet Chin Music used to be used as a spot move...used by Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannetty. When Shawn broke away from the Rockers, his finisher was actually a Teardrop Suplex. As far as I can understand, he had to figure out something else to use as his finish because once he started wrestling the bigger guys, that Teardrop Suplex just wasn't getting it. On the subject of suplexes, Magnum TA's finisher? A belly-to-belly suplex. Tully Blanchard's? A slingshot suplex. Shane Douglas would adopt the belly-to-belly suplex as his finisher too. I do believe I watched a really old wrestling match from I think the 60s where someone used a regular suplex as a finisher. And the abdominal stretch used to be a finish. The Tombstone piledriver? Depending on who used it. Don Muraco used it as a finisher in the 80s while Davey Boy Smith used it as a spot in his tag team matches in the 80s. Of course in the 90s it became synonymous with The Undertaker and Kane as their finishers. Any variation of the piledriver and DDT should be a finisher...point blank. When Chris Adams introduced the sidekick (Sweet Chin Music) into wrestling, it was a finisher, so yeah. I dunno. I mean like I said, I get that wrestling evolves but some things just shouldn't change.
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Post by vespertine on Feb 25, 2024 18:58:40 GMT -5
Gotta remember the attention span and the age of your everyday wrestling fan. The biggest ones are all below the age of 10. So to them, the DDT is just a move and so is sweet chin music. That is who AEW and WWE cater to, the below 20 average wrestling fan who has the attention span of... .what was I saying again? Oh look a butterfly.
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