Lockhart
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Post by Lockhart on Jul 27, 2018 4:06:13 GMT -5
I will be heading off to Uni next year. I'm trying my best to save enough money with my part-time job to maybe be able to afford to live on campus.
Maybe I'm just glorifying the idea of being able to be independent, but I just want the experience of getting by on my own for a year and seeing how I do.
Thoughts? Advice? Roasts?
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Post by Gravedigger on Jul 27, 2018 5:23:28 GMT -5
Go for it, dude. I went to a local community college for 2 years to get my associates degrees to save myself money instead of going the full four years to University. Then I transferred and took online classes for two years and graduated with my bachelor's degrees. It worked for me due to my situation at the time, but I regretted not getting the full and real college experience.
Plus, when it comes to the independent part, you'll see what it's like to live away from your parents and that safety net. You'll learn what you're made of and what you need to do to be prepared to do that for real when you move into your own apartment or house one day.
My advice though is to go to University. My advice normally to people is to go to community college first for several reasons. You'll save a ton of money going to a community college first. Also, at your age, people change their mind A LOT on what they want to do for a living. Hell I've known many who went all the way through university with a degree and still had no idea or they didn't go into the field their degree was in. I changed my mind, but I did it during the time I was in community college so my change in degree, which was in the same field and require the same exact kind of skill sets for the most part fortunately, turned out to be not that bad of a financial hit.
I spent half my career working at a community college then a university and have watched as soooo many students changed their majors multiple times.
I looked it up and Australia has community colleges. If they work the same way as American ones, I would advise you to consider going to community college first and going for an associates degree of some kind while you make sure what you want to do for a career post-university, then transfer afterwards.
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Post by Lincoln Kuechly on Jul 27, 2018 6:01:48 GMT -5
I currently go to University and it was the best decision of my life. I highly recommend, I have loved it. You'll love the Independence and learning about something you love.
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Lockhart
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Post by Lockhart on Jul 27, 2018 8:48:59 GMT -5
Go for it, dude. I went to a local community college for 2 years to get my associates degrees to save myself money instead of going the full four years to University. Then I transferred and took online classes for two years and graduated with my bachelor's degrees. It worked for me due to my situation at the time, but I regretted not getting the full and real college experience. Plus, when it comes to the independent part, you'll see what it's like to live away from your parents and that safety net. You'll learn what you're made of and what you need to do to be prepared to do that for real when you move into your own apartment or house one day. My advice though is to go to University. My advice normally to people is to go to community college first for several reasons. You'll save a ton of money going to a community college first. Also, at your age, people change their mind A LOT on what they want to do for a living. Hell I've known many who went all the way through university with a degree and still had no idea or they didn't go into the field their degree was in. I changed my mind, but I did it during the time I was in community college so my change in degree, which was in the same field and require the same exact kind of skill sets for the most part fortunately, turned out to be not that bad of a financial hit. I spent half my career working at a community college then a university and have watched as soooo many students changed their majors multiple times. I looked it up and Australia has community colleges. If they work the same way as American ones, I would advise you to consider going to community college first and going for an associates degree of some kind while you make sure what you want to do for a career post-university, then transfer afterwards. We do happen to have something similar to a community college, although depending on what you decide to do they can vary differently. One diploma or certificate may only require you to go to a class once or twice a week, and will only last a total of 10 weeks... while others will require more full-time study and can take upwards of a year to complete. As an alternative, I am actually capable of just doing a General Studies course and then transfer into another one after finishing that, or I could go with my original plan of doing a Bachelor of Arts and seeing if I like it. If not and I get a high enough grade, I believe I'll be allowed to transfer into another course without much consequence. I definitely want to get the full university experience... but I also don't want to be the type of person who spends heaps of years there, so I will have to make my mind up sooner or later.
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Post by Gravedigger on Jul 27, 2018 9:10:06 GMT -5
Yeah that is the great thing about General Studies type courses is that they transfer everywhere and rarely differ among degrees. That's the part most people work on at community colleges here in the States before they transfer to a 4 year college/university.
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Post by Stephen Singh on Jul 27, 2018 13:14:56 GMT -5
I will be heading off to Uni next year. I'm trying my best to save enough money with my part-time job to maybe be able to afford to live on campus. Maybe I'm just glorifying the idea of being able to be independent, but I just want the experience of getting by on my own for a year and seeing how I do. Thoughts? Advice? Roasts? Part-time job? I heard all you do around here now is job.
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Post by Shadowlove on Jul 27, 2018 17:37:56 GMT -5
I will be heading off to Uni next year. I'm trying my best to save enough money with my part-time job to maybe be able to afford to live on campus. Maybe I'm just glorifying the idea of being able to be independent, but I just want the experience of getting by on my own for a year and seeing how I do. Thoughts? Advice? Roasts? Part-time job? I heard all you do around here now is job.
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Lockhart
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Post by Lockhart on Jul 27, 2018 19:27:35 GMT -5
I will be heading off to Uni next year. I'm trying my best to save enough money with my part-time job to maybe be able to afford to live on campus. Maybe I'm just glorifying the idea of being able to be independent, but I just want the experience of getting by on my own for a year and seeing how I do. Thoughts? Advice? Roasts? Part-time job? I heard all you do around here now is job. Pretty much, except when I'm throwing you out of Rumble matches.
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Post by Zombie McMorris on Jul 27, 2018 20:28:16 GMT -5
I did online university. it was the best thing I every did ( minus the loans )
I'mma sell you on online school right now.
1. go to a NON PROFIT. fuck pheonix or kaplan
2. here was my schedule:
2 classes for the first 8 weeks.
2 clases for the 2nd set of 8 weeks
the class week starts on a tuesday (at midnight ) by wednesday I did a small essay for class work. by friday or sunday I had to do 2 reples to other students essays. by Monday, the weekly quiz had to be done. followed by working on a research paper throughout those 8 weeks.
but ZMAC, you ask.. whats the upside?
glad you asked.
1. I'm not traveling to school. I'm not wasting time or gas or wear and tear on my car
2. I'm not sittin in a 45 or 60 min class to learn about the homework to go home and do the home work
3. I don't have to put up with a class of jerks ( also if you do take classes at a uni, take night classes if you can. Be with adults )
4. by doing online, I can read as far in advance as I want ( I legit would do 2 weeks of work at a time by the end my junior year )
5. I can wake up whenever, eat whenever and do my work whenever within the due dates
6. and this is key. I COULD STILL WORK MY NORMAL WORK SCHEDULE. aka, still make money
my guy, you sat in a class room for 12 years of your life. if you got the self discipline to read the book and do the work on your own ( which you can because you've been doing homework for 12 years ) then ditch that class room crap
save money on gas, on your car, your wallet.
Free yourself from that noise.
ANNNDDD since you'll still be workin, you can start right on your loans if you have any and pay that shit off asap and not be 40k in the hole with no job or skills.
unless you want to be handed a piece of paper that says ' congrats, you're 40k in the hole, good luck, sucka'
in all seriousness. I enjoyed online school much better than sitting in class.
if you want to go to university for the experience, I'd say go to southern schools. They are a bit cheaper.
but you'll spend double the cash to live on campus and if you live off campus ( not at home ) you gotta get a job to pay for rent.
OR
you can wake up, go to work, go home and bang out your school work because you just saved an hour + from driving to class and sitting in class.
I'm just saying, its 2018. ditch the desk
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Post by Zombie McMorris on Jul 27, 2018 20:41:35 GMT -5
also real sound advice.
you're what 17? 18?
you're not an adult yet. hate to break it to you. Its just truth. you cant legally drink ( because you dont know whats good for you accordin to the gubbermintz ) but they'll get you to sign a loan for college.
you're not missing anything on the college experience. You got your whole life to owe the world money and be broke and survive off coffee in the morning and whiskey at night.
gods honest truth. stay at home if you can. work your part time job. attend either community college for you gen eds and then a state college for you undergrad.
another pro tip.
a Bach of arts isnt much because its not in demand nor does it show employers of your knowlage or skills.
HOWEVER
your undergrad dont matter too much because you can spec into most any masters class.
don't let what I just said sway you from your BA in english. go learn what you want to learn. It is YOUR life
the world right now is about what YOU can do. not so much what you know. I know I had a hard time gettin my BS in CJ to get me anywhere. I'm workin private security right now but it beats the front end supervisor at the grocery store.
my advice for degree is: think about where you want to end up and work backwards. deconstruct that path and go from there.
if you're not sure, either learn what interests you or get a degree in business ( that will help you everywhere, because everything is a business )
shit, is my daddness showing?
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Post by Zombie McMorris on Jul 27, 2018 20:50:50 GMT -5
I'll stress this again.
You have your ENTIRE life to:
owe rent / mortgage ( mortgage legit means death pledge )
property tax
home insurance / condo fees, dues, HOA fees etc
fire tax
sewer tax
health / dent/ vision insurance
car payment
car insurance
food
gas
clothing
heat
electric
cable
internet
you want kids? fuck that, those guys are little stress factories that eat, shit, sleep on their own terms. ever have a dog own your soul everytime it looks you in the eyes when it poops on YOUR lawn.. baby is that times a million
sure, you'll love them. but love is a strong word considering a new baby will cost you north of 12k that first year. its rought 230K to raise a kid from birth to you right now.
as I tell my 13 year old. you have your whole life to owe the world money and be miserable.
be a kid while even at 18, you're still considered a kid.
be smart and save your money.
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Post by Zombie McMorris on Jul 27, 2018 20:54:01 GMT -5
OK, I dont really tell my 13 girl that she has her whole life to owe the world money and be miserable. she would cry for a week straight and not forgive me. even though 'shes not a baby anymore' and wants me to tell it to her straight. I just tell her she has her whole life to grow up.
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Post by Zombie McMorris on Jul 27, 2018 20:59:45 GMT -5
i just realized you dont live in the states.
well fuck. half my rant is no good.
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Lockhart
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Post by Lockhart on Jul 27, 2018 21:56:23 GMT -5
Yeah, I get what you mean dude. The reason I made this topic in the first place was literally because the I'm trying to determine if it's worth the money. There are definitely online courses I can take, and they would bring in all the benefits you mentioned, so that's a route I'm considering for sure.
I know I got all that responsibility ahead of me, but I just thought the experience might be something I'd enjoy. I guess I'll have to figure out how much saving all my money would mean for me in the near future, and make a choice from there.
As for the Bachelor of Arts, yeah you're correct it doesn't really mean much to employers. I planned on it just being an undergrad that I'd enjoy before moving onto something else that I can actually use as a career.
Or I can do a Bachelor of Fine Arts and do Screenwriting... which I've always been kind of interested in, but I've never even attempted screenwriting before and getting into that course is "talent based" at most schools lmao. So who knows, I'm pretty much clueless at this point.
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Post by Damian Kaine on Jul 28, 2018 0:39:28 GMT -5
I will be heading off to Uni next year. I'm trying my best to save enough money with my part-time job to maybe be able to afford to live on campus. Maybe I'm just glorifying the idea of being able to be independent, but I just want the experience of getting by on my own for a year and seeing how I do. Thoughts? Advice? Roasts? I'm doing the same thing, mate. I'm excited Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
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Post by Alexander Pasternak on Jul 28, 2018 2:52:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I get what you mean dude. The reason I made this topic in the first place was literally because the I'm trying to determine if it's worth the money. There are definitely online courses I can take, and they would bring in all the benefits you mentioned, so that's a route I'm considering for sure. I know I got all that responsibility ahead of me, but I just thought the experience might be something I'd enjoy. I guess I'll have to figure out how much saving all my money would mean for me in the near future, and make a choice from there. As for the Bachelor of Arts, yeah you're correct it doesn't really mean much to employers. I planned on it just being an undergrad that I'd enjoy before moving onto something else that I can actually use as a career. Or I can do a Bachelor of Fine Arts and do Screenwriting... which I've always been kind of interested in, but I've never even attempted screenwriting before and getting into that course is "talent based" at most schools lmao. So who knows, I'm pretty much clueless at this point. Is this a personal attack?
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Post by Lockhart on Jul 28, 2018 3:20:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I get what you mean dude. The reason I made this topic in the first place was literally because the I'm trying to determine if it's worth the money. There are definitely online courses I can take, and they would bring in all the benefits you mentioned, so that's a route I'm considering for sure. I know I got all that responsibility ahead of me, but I just thought the experience might be something I'd enjoy. I guess I'll have to figure out how much saving all my money would mean for me in the near future, and make a choice from there. As for the Bachelor of Arts, yeah you're correct it doesn't really mean much to employers. I planned on it just being an undergrad that I'd enjoy before moving onto something else that I can actually use as a career. Or I can do a Bachelor of Fine Arts and do Screenwriting... which I've always been kind of interested in, but I've never even attempted screenwriting before and getting into that course is "talent based" at most schools lmao. So who knows, I'm pretty much clueless at this point. Is this a personal attack? No it's a cry for help for you to teach me how to screenwrite so I can get into the course. ):
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Post by Gravedigger on Jul 28, 2018 6:07:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean I did feel like I missed out on the full experience by doing my university courses online but at the same time it was so convenient. Like ZMac, I was working a part-time job at the time while taking a full load of classes online. It was absolutely the best thing for me.
ZMac also brings a great point about deconstructing things, but I find at Ryan's age that's kinda hard to do because most college students have no fucking clue what they're going to do. I personally changed my mind on what I wanted to do for a living. I didn't even transfer from community college to university for years until I was sure what I wanted to do. There's other reasons I waited that long, too, that were work related.
Also, depending on what field you're going into, college is not as important these days as it once was. Not to employers at least. Today's work world has become more about who you know than what you know. Also in fields like mine, web development, most of the web developers I know don't even have a degree in the field unlike someone like me who has two. You can get into web development by taking a dozen courses off of sites like Lynda.com, TeamTreeHouse, and UDemy. A year's worth of courses on those platforms and for a fraction of the time and cost, you can learn all you need to know and putting it into practice to build a portfolio, you can have a job in no time in the field. Yet when I was in school, you had to have degrees for it.
But like I said, people your age don't always know what they want to do. I remember students when I worked at community college and then later when I worked at a University who never could quite figure out what they wanted to do. It's like you have to fully understand and KNOW what you want to do with your life and be sure. If you don't you waste years of time and money on a college degree that you never use.
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Post by Gravedigger on Jul 28, 2018 6:08:56 GMT -5
In some fields, college is super important, in others it's not. Obviously in the medical field and legal field you have to have degrees for example. But it just all depends on which field you go into.
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Post by Sam Kidsgrove on Jul 28, 2018 12:13:56 GMT -5
Oh I miss University. They were such good days. Should really have stuck it out.
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